Matty Healy

Matty Healy and Curtis Pawley have a deep chat about their heroes and why writing a good song isn't a math equation.

PAWLEY: When I was studying music theory young, it made it so when I would hear too simple of a pop song—I mean, I don’t think like this at all now—I was like, “This is too simple, I need to spice it up.” But then when I sat and tried to be like, “Well, how could I modulate the key here? I’m just like, “All right, we’ve got to move to a new section here.” And the next thing I know, I made a nice little progression. It takes a lot of confidence to let the audience give you the benefit of the doubt and not over explain. And at the risk of sounding corny, that’s what I worry about in my work as I get old, as I become a more mature person. And to me, the reason I got into music when I was a kid wasn’t because I heard avant garde music, but it was because I heard radio. Then it could be that you use the breakup as a catalyst, as a subject in the song, but the song is not about the breakup. The ninth time he’s like, “I’m not in love,” you’re like, “This guy’s so fucking in love.” That’s a really clever device in that song. But all that’s to say that, to me, pop songcraft and strong writing and the little decisions that go into songwriting, the way that parts of the song move into other parts, the way you can combine a lyric with a certain riff to create a certain emotion. And then the more I worked on it, the more I started to feel like I liked this—I liked it sounding like what it was, which was one guy alone in a room with his limited tools, trying to make something that sounded as big as it could. This is just what was in my heart, and that’s all that matters.” I understand what they’re saying, that they’re not doing it for commercial viability, but it still feels like the wrong attitude to have about music. But I have a strange view on this stuff, because I actually think the best kind of dark art is optimistic, in a sense. That felt really good like, “Right, if you think something, you’re not such a unique snowflake, you’re not the only person in the world that thinks this way.” And that’s a great thing.

Matty Healy, the frontman of British rock band The 1975, has fans demanding answers after footage appears to show him marching and lifting his arm as he ...

I'm done with the classifications. "And I'm done with that! "I love everyone and Jewish people are not going to tell me, 'You can love us and you can love what we're doing to you in the contracts and you can love what we're pushing with the pornography'. Don’t do a nazi salute? One fumed: “Why are ppl tryna defend matty healy doing a Nazi Salute? [Kanye West](https://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/kanye-west) admitted he 'sees good things about Hitler' and that he 'likes' the Nazi leader in [his latest anti-Semitic outburst](https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kanye-west-apologises-anti-semitic-28282434).

If seeing the lead singer of The 1975 saluting Nazis wasn't exactly on your yearly bingo card, you'd be like the rest of us. In a viral TikTok from a recent ...

](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzWt3EUsqiw)) [TikTok](https://twitter.com/natluvsfilm/status/1618735841593163778) from a recent performance, Matty can be seen clearly doing a Nazi salute. It's worth mentioning that Matty has established consent with each person he brought on stage before kissing them, but the act has drawn a lot of attention online nonetheless. [Ye's recent support of Hitler](https://www.distractify.com/p/what-did-kanye-west-say-on-infowars) and his party. [kissing random fans on stage](https://www.distractify.com/p/matty-healy-dating). Instead, it was a quip at a fellow artist who has openly expressed affinity for Nazis: [Ye, aka Kanye West](https://www.distractify.com/t/kanye-west).

'Satire or not, this is irresponsible,' said one fan, condemning his on-stage actions.

“Whether it’s supposed to be satire or not, the mf willingly threw up an antisemetic sign in the middle of his performance.” His actions have sparked controversy online, with fans of the band condemning the singer. He has consequently been dropped by French fashion house Balenciaga.